earlier this year I took two of my friends (ludwig and lazarz) on a big ol' discussion on how to leverage ai for learning purposes in general.
what I like about these two lad is that they are their own man.
they will say what they think without reserve (hence the many constructive disagreement during the interview).
what I also like is that they have quite different learning background with ludwig being an almost pure hustling self-taught learner and lazarz followed an academic path driven mainly by his own curiosity.
it was a great conversion which I think might be helpful for the kids out there stressed out of their mind by what to do with their self growth in this ai age that is speeding by.
I think a good overall quote from lazarz to elevate your spirit during these emotionally charged time was this one :
> "if you have no goals and you think it’s pointless well sorry to break it to you but it has always been pointless".
beautiful piece optimistic-nihilism.
enjoy! 🌹
sections:
0:00 - man I love learning
2:30 - ludwig wild background
5:50 - “my guy where the hell this drive came from”
8:32 - lazarz inspirational background
12:00 - that kid that understand everything first shot discussion
21:18 - the benefit of formal university education
30:00 - “you don’t need [to know] much to make money”
36:10 - “ma man we need this shipped get it done” plus research is social
42:32 - “getting into an university for networking is a great idea”
44:50 - [ludwig] how to decide what is the next thing to learn?
49:20 - “in most area that aren’t math the map of knowledge is fucked”
58:48 - “the brain is one hell of a pattern matching machine”
1:00:08 - [lazarz] how to decide what is the next thing to learn?
1:08:30 - adding value to the world (and yourself) is the way to go get lucky
1:18:39 - how do you deal with the ai doom feeling
1:20:45 - “if you have no goals and you think it’s pointless well sorry to break it to you but it has always been pointless”
1:35:35 - why LLM are fundamentally different from human intelligence?
1:43:10 - non-neuron cells intelligence is super smart
1:48:45 - is neuroscience still useful analogy for creating ai system?
2:02:17 - five years from now what is the one skill you glad you have improved?
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How to Learn in the AI Age? with Ludwig & Lazarz
this interview was 50% optimism and 50% nihilism absolutely fantastic pragmatic balance from those lads.
Jul 21, 2026
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